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Neale and Ben discuss the government's plan to gradually re-open the borders, the power outages last week the the fall out from that, and what will New Zealand take to the next global climate change meeting in Glasgow? Neale Jones was Chief of Staff to Labour Leader Jacinda Ardern, and prior to that was Chief of Staff to Andrew Little. He is the director of Capital Government Relations. Ben Thomas is a PR consultant and a former National Government press secretary.
