9 Feb 2023

Episode 2: Money and Mate Ma’a Tonga

From Fair Game: Pacific Rugby Against the World, 5:00 am on 9 February 2023
A photo of the Tonga team performing the Sipi Tau prior to kickoff during the Rugby World Cup Pool A match between France and Tonga at Wellington Regional Stadium on October 1, 2011 in Wellington, New Zealand.  The Tongan team is in the background facing the camera, while the French team is in the foreground, watching the performance with their backs to the camera.

The Tonga team performing the Sipi Tau prior to kickoff during the Rugby World Cup Pool A match between France and Tonga at Wellington Regional Stadium on October 1, 2011 in Wellington, New Zealand. Photo: Getty Images

“It's racism, structural racism - the home unions know the threat, I think of our smaller unions getting too strong.”

Pakilau Aotearoa Manase Lua, Tongan elder and member of NZ Rugby’s Pacific Action Group, talks about the tough choices faced by players and the vast gap in resources between the powerful and the Pacific islands - and draws a troubling conclusion. 

Former Tonga and Highlanders backrower and current Pacific Rugby Players head Hale T Pole tells us about how that gap led to some unconventional fundraising methods.

“We’re all wearing undies, dye our hair, everything.”

And the challenges he faces every day.

A photo of Hale T Pole running with the ball while playing for Tonga against England in the Rugby World Cup. The match was in Paris in September 2007.

Hale T Pole running with the ball while playing for Tonga against England in the Rugby World Cup in Paris in September 2007. Photo: Panoramic/PHOTOSPORT

‘’Don't ever compare us, the Pacific Islands, to what other emerging nations have gone through. There's no comparison.’’

Wallaby great and current Tonga coach Toutai Kefu discusses the impact of all these issues on the players’ mindset

John’s former Lions teammate and ex-Tonga captain Inoke Afeaki likens the exodus of Tongan players to overseas clubs to a “slave trade’ but the Tongan Prime Minister, Siaosi Sovaleni, argues that the problems with World Rugby are “being resolved”.

An image of Tongan rugby captain, Inoke Afeaki, being lifted during a game against New Zealand Maori at North Harbour Stadium in 2 June 2003. . NZ Maori won 47-12.

Tongan rugby captain, Inoke Afeaki, is lifted during a game against New Zealand Maori at North Harbour Stadium in 2 June 2003. NZ Maori won 47-12. Photo: Sandra Teddy/Photosport

Available from February 9th on Apple podcasts, iHeart, Spotify, PMN and at RNZ.co.nz.

Fair Game: Pacific Rugby Against the World is made with the support of New Zealand on Air.

Written and produced by James Nokise, Talei Anderson and John Daniell for Bird of Paradise Productions, Radio New Zealand and Pacific Media Network

Language programme director - Matt Tufuga

Executive producers for RNZ - Justin Gregory, Katy Gosset and Tim Watkin

Sound engineers - Rangi Powick, Alex Harmer and Jeremy Ansell for RNZ, Harrison Edwards at PMN

Music and sound design - Anonymouz (Faiumu Matthew Salapu)

Visuals: Manatoa Productions, Anonymouz and Krista Barnaby (RNZ)

Additional reporting by Lice Movono

Additional sound recorded by Rudy Bartley at WT Media in Samoa

Special thanks to Don Mann, Lui Vilisoni, Lagipoiva Cherelle Jackson, Jodhi Hoani, Josie Campbell,

Elijah Fa’afiu and Inangaro Vakaafi

RNZ Commissioning - Jodhi Hoani, Tim Burnell

RNZ Acting Head of Content - Veronica Schmidt

RNZ Interim Chief Content Officer - Megan Whelan

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